With "What both of you don't seem to realize is that the selection of acupuncture points is based on a traditional Chinese medical diagnosis" Are you honestly writing to me, the person who built every single page on this site, who writes tirelessly on the subject of acupuncture and related aspects, who has an extremely successful practice and who himself and his masters regularly treat all types of cancers, auto-immune disorders, etc. with very good results that I do not understand the proper selection of acupuncture points? Between my masters, our colleagues who use our system of acupuncture and myself we collectively see well over 25,000 patients a year with upwards of 70% of them having serious conditions such as these. Most practitioners don't even see these conditions, let alone have any kind of success rate with them. So while pattern diagnosis is important, it's not the only way to utilize acupuncture and related techniques.
One question for you, have you ever treated a case of scleroderma, first and foremost, and has your treatment ever lead to a good result, how about raynaud's? How many of these cases have you actually seen? If you have them and treated them well why don't you write constructively about what you have done instead of coming off so elitist? The points we list are because they have worked for us. Can you adapt them, can you use them with pattern based points, of course you can do what you want with them. We are simply offering them. And for someone with their hands already on the person, this gives someone with an open mind some very valuable direction.
There are so many problems with your response, but being condescending towards your colleagues is the main problem. I don't believe Dennis was putting himself out there as this persons sole care taker. He was simply asking (and appropriately so) that since my hands are already on this person with such a horrible condition could I do something better. This is noble, an enlightened and outreaching way to work and he should be praised for even thinking of how better to help his patient.
I'm assuming you don't see many patients with serious conditions - you might, but either way you can assume they are already under the care of an MD and probably doing everything else under the sun to help themselves. That said, the question Dennis had wasn't about any of that. It was about what -he- can do...
Along that note, as this is a public forum my responses often include aspects that are not necessary to answer just the individuals questions but more information that can be used by the many people who will come across this discussion in the future.
When I mention our points I do say - "for acupuncture this would be in addition to general points related to their condition overall" So there is an accommodation for pattern diagnosis in our treatments. I will say we rarely use the tongue or the pulse in our treatment and our protocols are somewhat fixed and only vary in general ways such as if the person is yin def or yang def. Personally I've seen my main Chinese master (extremely successful and highly regarded practitioner with real verifiable, daily results) take the pulse less than a hundred times... There are many, many systems of acupuncture and I might be devaluing standard rote TCM, but only to those who think there is only one way.
We rely on palpatory diagnosis as in many systems of Japanese and Chinese acupuncture. We feel it gives us more detailed information that we can use to both choose appropriate points and to monitor the effectiveness of our treatments. I started the same place as anyone else and through arduous efforts, lots of moving around, etc. I've been able to train with some of the best. This has advanced me greatly and how I perform acupuncture is a direct reflection of what I've seen work repeatedly on the hardest of cases. If that's different from what I learned in school, then so be it. Personally, I go with what works the most frequently and in the shortest amount of time.
If you can do it, tell us what you might do and don't judge people trying to help. If you can't, try some of what we recommend and see what happens. Perhaps then we can have a constructive conversation.
And I'm certainly not saying that what we do is the best and everyone should do what we do, far from it. But, I am offering something constructive to the discussion based on direct experience with these conditions....